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Lowes closing...a happy day for people who hate the big box stores

by fredo
on 10/17/2011 @ 1:47pm
Over the last few months we've heard how terrible these big box stores are for the livability and walkability of our city. We've also been told that once they move in all the little stores go out of business. Well Lincoln Hardware is still here and now Lowes is going out of business (Hosmer St. location only). Therefore this is a happy day for the people who oppose the big boxes... but it sort of invalidates their concerns about the big boxes permanently eradicating small shops. 
Anyway,  this is a good thing for the former Lowes employees too. Those jobs probably didn't pay family wages and probably a lot of the Lowes folk were drawing on some government benefits. They will certainly be better off when they get better jobs.

by NineInchNachos on 10/17/2011 @ 1:55pm
Wish I lived closer to Lincoln Hardware 

by The Jinxmedic on 10/17/2011 @ 2:10pm
I can walk there in 45 minutes...

by CaptainBritton on 10/17/2011 @ 2:16pm
I walk to the lumber yard alla'time. Nothing like carrying 3 or 4 4x8' sheets of 3/4" ply down 6th avenue!

by ixia on 10/17/2011 @ 2:17pm
LOVE Gray Lumber 
Lowes sucks the money out of the community to NC. Gray Lumber has been in T-Town since 1903. They have supported many community projects I worked on. Actually, they have NEVER said no.

by L.S.Erhardt on 10/17/2011 @ 2:19pm
I'm inclined to think that in an era of 20,000,000+ people being unemployed that any employer closing it's doors isn't a good thing. While Lowe's isn't exactly a Boeing or Microsoft in terms of a paycheck, it's still better than a McJob or being unemployed.
Nor do I care for another huge empty building. Didn't it used to be a Mega Foods?

Also, @ RxR:
You live close to the Ace hardware on Sprague & 12th. It's independently owned and operated (much like an IGA).

by NineInchNachos on 10/17/2011 @ 2:21pm
need to find a better lumber supply than home despot.  I gotta check out Gray Lumber again.  

by NineInchNachos on 10/17/2011 @ 2:23pm
I love my local ACE store!   I really gotta invest in a cargo bike.

by NineInchNachos on 10/17/2011 @ 2:29pm

by fredo on 10/17/2011 @ 2:31pm
Ace is OK, but it's kind of like a mini-K Mart with halloween decorations and the like. The people who work there really don't know much about hardware. I was there Sunday to buy some Makita reciprocating saw blades (which they don't carry). Nobody knew how to cross reference to find the proper house brand blade nor did they care to figure it out.

by NineInchNachos on 10/17/2011 @ 2:34pm
had the same ACE experience too when trying to purchase aluminum/plastic coated clothes line for my raspberry bushes 

by JesseHillFan on 10/17/2011 @ 3:39pm
I remember when Ace hardware used sex Godess  Suzanne Somers in their

by NineInchNachos on 10/17/2011 @ 4:40pm
more handyman places I need to check out...

by NineInchNachos on 10/17/2011 @ 4:45pm
and my personal favorite

by Erik on 10/17/2011 @ 5:32pm
Shop hyperlocal !

by tacoma1 on 10/17/2011 @ 6:36pm
The only thing worse than a big box store moving into your neighborhood is a big box store moving out, and leaving a huge cinder block carcass behind.

by fredo on 10/17/2011 @ 6:55pm
Probably a WalMart would fit into that building. All we need is a few trendy apartments built on top and a hipster martini bar next door and it could be a shining example of the new urbanism.

by low bar on 10/17/2011 @ 7:00pm
just another day in the life of people who live near a fucking car museam

by tacoma1 on 10/17/2011 @ 7:40pm
I'm ok with dive martini bars too

by fredo on 10/17/2011 @ 8:32pm
Maybe you and RR could go together in a new business venture. You could incorporate a dive martini bar and an art supply store under one roof. I've even got a name for it:

by NineInchNachos on 10/17/2011 @ 8:42pm
never!  I like my art sober.  

by KevinFreitas on 10/17/2011 @ 9:13pm
Snark aside, why doesn't Wal-Mart just move there now instead? Works for me.

by tacoma1 on 10/17/2011 @ 9:18pm
It'd be better than having an empty cinder block mausoleum sit there in perpetuity.

It is probably too close to the Lakewood Wally World to make sense business wise though, being only 3.5 miles away.

by ixia on 10/18/2011 @ 9:43pm
Lowes wants to build a new store on Pacific. Do people need more lumber in that neck of the woods? This is bizarre...

by Maria on 10/18/2011 @ 10:17pm
That Lowes forced the closure of a really good grocery store, MegaFoods. I don't know if it was a chain or not. It wasn't super clean or fancy. It had tons of ethnic food...really cheap ingredients for Asian or Mexican cooking. The one place I could find mango and passion fruit in a myriad of forms.

Anyway, I'm sad that any businesses need to close (guess it's the economy?) but I wish they hadn't displaced my source for cheap limes and avocados.

PS. I love Grey Lumber. They're really nice people and they have things like tongue & groove cedar for vintage Craftsman porch floors that are impossible to find elsewhere.

by jenyum on 10/18/2011 @ 10:33pm
Did Lowes force the closure of MegaFoods?  I thought their roof collapsed and they decided not to reopen.  As far as I know, the Lowes is an entirely new building, which would probably be torn down if Wal*Mart were to come in and build yet another entirely new big box store.  Just like Sonic had to knock down the former Godfathers turned resort wear store (? what a strange business for Tacoma) to build an entirely new fast food structure.

by ixia on 10/18/2011 @ 11:46pm

I thougth Lowes moved into to old Eagle Hardware building. I did like Eagle.

by Nick K. on 10/19/2011 @ 12:21am
For someone who lives in the area, 63rd & I, never really used the Lowes.  Use Lincoln Hardware regularly, as do I use the Home Depot on 72nd regularly.  Did used to use the Mega Foods, however, quite regularly.  Never did believe that Lowes would be able to compete with the Home Depot, anyhow; cheaper prices and the best stocked "big box" hardware in western Washington.  For those who remember, the current WInCo/former multiple furniture outfits, used to be a Home Base, which then became the Home Depot before it's current location. Of course, need to visit McLendon's anytime I require a decent stock of cedar. Still will continue to visit Lincoln H. for my pound of nails!       

by L.S.Erhardt on 10/19/2011 @ 4:01am
Lowe's bought out Eagle like 15 years ago. The competition of Lowe's and the Depot killed Ernst right about the same time.

The interesting relationship between the Depot and Lowe's is a "I'll compete with you no matter what" model. When a Lowe's or HD gets built, the other builds one as close as possible... even if it doesn't make much sense.

Seriously, take a look. It's rare to find one without the other being within 1 mile.

by KevinFreitas on 10/19/2011 @ 8:52am
Like I said:

by low bar on 10/19/2011 @ 10:58am
i bet holders own stock in both HD and Lowes so what the fuck does it matter, in fact if you were selling eggs you'd probably not give a fuck that both baskets were next to each other. boycott made in china is the only way to bring back our own economy. 

by NineInchNachos on 10/19/2011 @ 11:08am
yes big box stores all sell the same crap.  The real question is how many slaves work for you?  take the challenge!

by NineInchNachos on 10/19/2011 @ 3:09pm
curious about the forced labor in your product supply line?  checkout that slavery footprint link.  It is really sickening! 

by fredo on 10/19/2011 @ 3:27pm
Your computer was probably assembled in China, why do you continue to support Chinese labor practices? It's really sickening!

by fredo on 10/19/2011 @ 4:11pm
Some of the people posting here are certainly conflicted.
In one posting you beg for absolution from the Chinese for the 1885 Chinese expulsion, and in the next posting you denegrate the products made by the Chinese. If I were a Chinese I wouldn't know whether to invite you to tea or give you a swift karate kick to your honorable nuts.

by NineInchNachos on 10/19/2011 @ 4:25pm
perhaps you do a better job of justifying slave labor?
would be a sad testament if you were not yourself conflicted. 

by fredo on 10/19/2011 @ 4:36pm
Straw man argument.
 The people working in the Chinese factories have left their family farms voluntarily in search of a better life and are seeking the low wage jobs. They aren't slaves and frequently the workers find the routine so gruelling they return to the farm.
If you bought a cell phone, a television or a computer you contributed to the Chinese labor situation. Don't pretend you aren't part of the problem. Those Chinese factory owners may be the great great grandchildren of the Tacoma expulsion victims, better be careful with your character assassinations honorable cartoon man. 

by NineInchNachos on 10/19/2011 @ 4:44pm
I do not pretend to not be part of the problem. Your refuge of ignorance will not save you or anyone when the revolution comes.

by NineInchNachos on 10/19/2011 @ 5:02pm
according to the slave labor calculator there are 50 slaves forced laboring away for my purchased products. 

by low bar on 10/19/2011 @ 5:06pm
it is pretty fucked up that my apple is 'assembled' in china. but for steve (rip) i'll make an exception. and the chinese absolution park was built in the USA. thanks. now if we could just find a way of exporting them.