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Re: Requests / Feedback | A diverse, productive, and sustatinable economy.

cisserosmiley — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:41:39 -0800

i totally agree, tacoma has a lack of family wage jobs with solid benefits. that's why WE should propagate those small businesses with civic coddling and reward the brave tacomanians whos industrious thrift could grow to be the next Russell or Nalley... More »

Re: Requests / Feedback | A diverse, productive, and sustatinable economy.

fredo — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:24:37 -0800

I'm all about self employment cissero. I'm self employed myself. More »

Re: Requests / Feedback | A diverse, productive, and sustatinable economy.

cisserosmiley — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:14:15 -0800

it is true that unemployment leads to business openings...but let us not lose this opportunity to bridge the collective genious of feedtacoma...lets explore policy that will continue the opening of new biz-even little crappy ones and de-incentivise being an employee. economic history could then repeat itself... More »

Re: Requests / Feedback | A diverse, productive, and sustatinable economy.

fredo — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 17:01:47 -0800

the two years with the lowest unemployment (06, 07) also had the lowest number of net new businesses. the three years with the highest unemployment (08, 09, 10) also had the highest number of net new businesses. More »

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Crenshaw Sepulveda — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:48:37 -0800

Self-employed is the new black. More »

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NineInchNachos — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:19:06 -0800

or is self-employed same as unemployed? More »

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NineInchNachos — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:18:38 -0800

unemployment isn't working. More »

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cisserosmiley — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:19:20 -0800

if everyone owned a business the unemployment number would be 0% as it was in all of history until URBAN environs arose... More »

Re: Requests / Feedback | A diverse, productive, and sustatinable economy.

fredo — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:34:47 -0800

Here are the Tacoma unemployment rates for the years in the table* 2006 5.1% 2007 4.6% 2008 8.3% 2009 9.2% 2010 9.2% *all figures from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. I conclude sadly, that there is no evidence that achieving incredible business formation numbers has any positive influence on employment levels. More »

Re: Requests / Feedback | A diverse, productive, and sustatinable economy.

cisserosmiley — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:34:55 -0800

finally WE are getting close...the next phase of discussion is - can these net 1200+ businesses remain open when 900 of our most valuable wage earners are not here, and if not, what should tacoma look like in the future with absolutely zero chance of replacing those 900 (before you criticize this comment please ask around your own network of investment pros and they can confirm). maybe tacoma is a scene where everyone owns a business? More »

Re: Requests / Feedback | A diverse, productive, and sustatinable economy.

fredo — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:16:35 -0800

Well, we don't know if the new businesses have employees or not. So we don't know if there is net gain in employment or not. More »

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Erik — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:13:14 -0800

Great information. True, the information does not include the size of the businesses. More »

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NineInchNachos — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:10:05 -0800

an honest hot dog cart job in hand is better than two white collar criminal jobs in the bush. More »

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Marty — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:03:57 -0800

If every new business has only 1 employee (net 1200) and Frank Russell left with 900, it still a net gain in jobs. I would be interested in seeing how many of the FR employees are now new business owners. More »

Re: Requests / Feedback | A diverse, productive, and sustatinable economy.

fredo — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:24:41 -0800

Kev, Marty's stats aren't bad and we should be happy that there is so much prosperity in Tacoma that many of us never see. But the raw data may be a little misleading. More »

Re: Requests / Feedback | A diverse, productive, and sustatinable economy.

NineInchNachos — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:14:24 -0800

Yes! More »

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KevinFreitas — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:55:13 -0800

Thanks so much for sharing these numbers Marty! (I table-ified 'em for you) Even though they might not meet Fredo's Standard Data Model it's a good 35,000' view.@fredo -- I'm sure there are more stats available but this is a great quick glance. More »

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Jesse — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:50:32 -0800

Nice! More »

Re: Requests / Feedback | A diverse, productive, and sustatinable economy.

fredo — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:50:00 -0800

So if a huge investment firm with worldwide operations closes its local office but is replaced with 2 hot dog carts that would be a net gain for Tacoma? More »

Requests / Feedback | A diverse, productive, and sustatinable economy.

Marty — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:41:55 -0800

The City has released it's Performance Management, 2010 Report to Citizens. Below is info on new businesses opening in Tacoma. More »