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The Jinxmedic — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:10:23 -0800

(Shameless promotional statement follows) The original framed and signed pen-and ink of the Palin CLAWzine page is still available, by the way... More »

Re: Comics | Ocryx and Joe - Ocryx and Joe - emergency relevant FLSHBACK CLAWzine page

NineInchNachos — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:49:22 -0800

life is an adventure! We'll see. More »

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fredo — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:48:28 -0800

What if it turns out that the shooter wasn't inspired by Sarah Palins website or vitriolic political commentary, but rather by some political "cartoons" that he viewed on line the morning of the shootings? Will you then agree that political cartoons must be carefully regulated? More »

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NineInchNachos — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:32:03 -0800

so it is interesting that all the guns in arizona couldn't stop 1 crazy person. in the end it was a people swarm (bare hands) that put an end to the killing. More »

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The Jinxmedic — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:51:47 -0800

Perhaps not- but I thought it might be good for some people to see that there actually are some laws regarding who can and can not purchase firearms in this country. More »

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jenyum — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:42:34 -0800

I don't think he was ever actually adjudicated as a "mental defective" or involuntarily committed, although he was asked to leave his community college unless/until he got help. More »

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The Jinxmedic — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:31:03 -0800

The following excerpt is what the ATF says to licensed firearms dealers regarding "prohibited persons" (please note paragraph 6 "Adjudicated Mental Defective or Person Involuntarily Committed to a Mental Institution" below): You MAY NOT sell or transfer a firearm or ammunition to any of the following prohibited persons or in the following circumstances: 1. Straw Purchaser: A �straw purchaser� is a person who is not the �actual buyer� of the firearm; that is, a person who obtains a firearm for another person. More »

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NineInchNachos — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:45:09 -0800

OK so maybe I was wrong about John Kerry http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/even_lost_wars_make_corporations_rich_20110110/ also I'd like to see AZ step up to support that fed gun law about crazy people (WA seems to be doing OK keeping real guns out of the traveller's possession) . More »

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The Jinxmedic — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:04:28 -0800

Fredo- I have NEVER called for the curtailment of free speech. In fact, I believe I was the only Tacoma cartoonist to support Molly Norris' "Everybody draw Mohammed Day" with an O&J strip of my own. More »

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NineInchNachos — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:01:18 -0800

consensus! sweet! More »

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fredo — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:34:20 -0800

Jinx- I agree with much you have so say, but I'm not so quick to join you and RR in an effort to modify our freedom of speech protections. Sarah Palin might be wise to tone it down, but if she thinks that hunting metaphors are appropriate for her website, I think that's entirely her choice. More »

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The Jinxmedic — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:22:00 -0800

Fredo- I'm with RR on this one- there is a huge difference between the expectations of a political cartoonist (whose job is to satirize, inflame, ridicule, and sometimes shock), and that of a political movement intending to influence policy (by "political movement" I refer to things such as mainstream political parties, political action committees, and public interest groups). The political movement should behave in a fashion within the expected rules of behavior within society. More »

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Non Sequitur — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:10:15 -0800

Sure. Please read any news site or paper about yesterday's events in Arizona. More »

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fredo — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 16:18:10 -0800

"We need out elected officials to stop passing half-baked, not-read, corporate-helping laws to begin with." NS Can you provide an example of a "nutjob" who lost it because an elected official passed a half baked, not read, corporate helping law? More »

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Non Sequitur — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 15:56:35 -0800

I feel we should rather than regulate free speech, we should remove the reasons why these nutjobs lose it to begin with. We need out elected officials to stop passing half-baked, not-read, corporate-helping laws to begin with. More »

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fredo — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 15:11:10 -0800

my bad, i didn't realize the huge distinction between a vitriolic political cartoon and a vitriolic political illustration. please forgive me. More »

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NineInchNachos — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 15:04:44 -0800

I am a satirical political cartoon. Let me say that again POLITICAL CARTOON CARTOON CARTOON. More »

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fredo — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 14:12:44 -0800

You're painting yourself into a corner RR. You want the freedom to post whatever imagery pleases you, but want other people to only post responsible imagery. More »

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NineInchNachos — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 14:03:50 -0800

I do no such thing. I'm calling for people to be responsible for their actions! More »

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fredo — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 13:52:39 -0800

Interesting POV comrade, a political cartoonist calling for the suspension of the first amendments freedom of speech protection. More »