Forum Home  |  Feed Tacoma  |  Requests / Feedback

Habitat Humanity Hand Outs

by Urban E
on 9/28/2011 @ 11:27am
I received a text last night from my baby momma (whom I do pay support to) asking if my son told me about the Habitat Humanity house their family got approved for. Let me say first she is married with a working husband and additional child living in a very nice apt in Gig Harbor by that fancy movie theater. So my response was no and where at? Her response was "what no congrats". Then I asked the question of " I thought that was for single moms and low income family's or disabled people. To my dismay her response was "we are poor". Does a persons unwillingness to contribute financially to their family constitute as being poor. Has Habitat Humanity lowered its standards so much that they will give any unemployed able bodied person a home. If HH is so desperate to give these homes away have they served their purpose in the community and these funds could now to go other programs that could use it?

by NineInchNachos on 9/28/2011 @ 12:02pm
this looks like a post for Mofo from the Hood...

by low bar on 9/28/2011 @ 12:29pm
the rent really is too damn high when you get a house for free. i know 70 square miles of unemployed detroit that could use homes over some schmuck in gig harbor. but people would argue that the hours a woman puts into raising a future tax payer constitutes employment and there fore on to lets give the middle-class hen a coop! maybe the lower class is just too damn low to even invest in at this point. makes about as much sense as employers right now who are hiring applicants who've already got a job over the applicant who doesn't. reeks of biology. 

by jenyum on 9/28/2011 @ 12:42pm
Define "unwillingness to contribute financially?"  I was not under the impression that jobs are super easy to come by lately, or that there is a real oversupply of jobs that are worth never seeing your kids for, assuming you've got a working spouse who can keep everyone clothed and fed.
I have heard a lot about a lack of involved parents, though.  Habitat is a nonprofit, what's it to you if they don't mind if your "baby momma" stays home with the kids?  

by NineInchNachos on 9/28/2011 @ 12:44pm
just imagine if she got a job at the new super walmart... your baby mama could have a job AND still qualify for Habitat for Humanity. 

by jenyum on 9/28/2011 @ 12:45pm
In addition (no I am not done) Habitat for Humanity is not giving anything away.  Applicants have to pay a down payment, make mortgage payments, and invest sweat equity in building the house.  
You should delete this, as I'm sure "baby momma" has access to the internets and your behavior is not in the best interests of your child.

by NineInchNachos on 9/28/2011 @ 12:53pm
Habitat for Humanity is a GREAT organization.  I worship at the church of the Tacoma ReStore.

you can buy obsolete hand tools CHEAP and the money goes to make houses AND make Urban E angry... well that's a WIN WIN WIN trifecta 

by The Jinxmedic on 9/28/2011 @ 1:03pm
I, too, am a great fan of the ReStore.

by fredo on 9/28/2011 @ 6:20pm
Fredo observes:
baby momma claims to be low income but can afford to send out text messages. 

by Urban E on 9/28/2011 @ 6:27pm
@jenyum-Unwillingness to work= has not worked or looked for a job for a decade. In the best intrest of my child would be promoting a culture of hard work= reward, not scamming the system and taking the easy way out still gets you there. That's what it's to me.
Don't get me wrong I am a HH volunteer and have seen families that are well deserved and I too love Restore. I am having an issue of HH requirements being manipulated and there being no checks and balances in place to prevent it. Therefore taking away from a family that really needs the help. As lowbar said there are plenty places in this country that could use the help.
@NIN even with a Super Walmart job one could easily qualify for a home right here in good ol Ttown. Have you seen the prices of homes lately? 2-3 bds for 50-99k. That equates to apprx 500-1000 per month. Well within reach of even an entry level Walmart working family.

by NineInchNachos on 9/28/2011 @ 6:27pm
some poor people have Tee Vee and refrigerators too.  AND air conditioning!  

by Urban E on 9/28/2011 @ 6:29pm
and internet access

by NineInchNachos on 9/28/2011 @ 7:30pm
some back story please.   how come things didn't work out?  

by jenyum on 9/28/2011 @ 7:36pm
Are you saying this family of 4 has more than $34,050 in annual income that would qualify them for a Habitat home, or just that you think that they should, if this no account female would just get a job and place her kids in subsidized day care? (thus, no longer "scamming the system")

These deserving families that you have seen, what qualifies them as deserving, in a way that the mother of your child is not?They have to have good credit and money in savings in order to qualify, so they don't sound so terrible to me.  

by fredo on 9/28/2011 @ 7:56pm
I want HH to build me a man cave.

by Urban E on 9/28/2011 @ 8:35pm
the deserving families I am aware of either were a single working mom or a family with a disabled spouse. I guess I didn't realize one spouse could just not work and bamm just like that you qualify.
 @NIN, didn't work out because she didn't have a job then either. I thought everyone in the Harbor had a job or at least wanted a job. Should've stayed on my side of the bridge huh? @fredo, I'd settle for a tuff shed.

by jenyum on 9/28/2011 @ 8:45pm
Did she not have a job when you met her, or "bamm" just like that, didn't have a job after she became the baby mama?

I never get personal like this, but it just floors me that you'd put all this negativity about your family out there for the world to read.

by Erik on 9/29/2011 @ 2:05am
This is from their website.They require need, ability to pay, and willingness to contribute:


Requirements for Homeownership Applicants

Habitat's acceptance guidelines are based on consideration of the following criteria:Need for HousingThe applicant(s) must demonstrate that their current housing situation has one or more of the following characteristics:Unsafe or very poor conditions or located in a particularly unsafe area;Rent, or contribution currently paid towards rent, exceeds 35% of net income;Size in inadequate for the present or anticipated residents;Other facts demonstrating a need for the type of housing Habitat can provide, that goes beyond a personal desire to own a home.Applicants will not be approved if they qualify for conventional financing or presently own real estate. Otherwise, eligible applicants are not disqualified because they may qualify for another subsidy program, governmental or charitable, or tax deferral.

Demonstrated Ability to Pay

Gross household income must be between 30% and 60% of the median income for the New Haven area at the time of application. Click here for 2011 income guidelines.A two-year history of stable income and employment;An acceptable credit history, which includes a good record of paying rent and utilities;Bankruptcies must have been discharged for two years;Ability to cover closing costs and adjustments, which are about $3,500, as well as a $400 downpayment on the house;Ability to afford anticipated mortgage payments. Monthly payments for debt cannot exceed 40% of gross monthly income;Applicants must be U.S. citizens or permanent resident aliens.

Willingness to Partner with Habitat

Applicant must be willing to contribute at least 400 hours of sweat equity towards the building of Habitat homes, of which 100 hours must be completed by each primary applicant, working at least 20 hours per month;Applicant must be willing to live in a neighborhood in which Habitat is currently building;Applicant must be willing to attend required workshops for success in home

by fredo on 9/29/2011 @ 7:46am
A job at WalMart would allow a lot of similar baby mommas to achieve the HH "demonstrated income requirement" and obtain affordable housing. 

Why do the city council and current city council candidates hate baby mommas?

by Urban E on 9/29/2011 @ 7:52am
Thanks for the requirements E, from the looks of it my suspicions are correct that HH may in fact be in need of recipients at least for the Harbor project and may have lowered their own standards to place folks in homes at least in this particular situation. @ jenyum, I don't see what you find so flooring? It's not like I'm totally bashing someone or airing some real dirty laundry and besides what's it to you it's my laundry. I'm just merely stating facts about a personal situation that I feel is wrong and it's something I have said text to text to baby momma. I almost feel you just have a hang up because I am speaking about a women or mother of my child and how dare I. Would you feel the same if the conversation were reversed and I was talking about a male who was living off his spouse and refused to work? We all know there are plenty of those.  No she did not have a job at the time of conception but she was in school so I guess I saw some potential. Glad I followed my gut and got out when I did...I do have a great son though, he's very talented and hard working. I think he gets that from his dad. I can't wait to see him this weekend.

by jenyum on 9/29/2011 @ 8:05am
If you were bashing a stay at home dad, whose spouse was happily supporting them both, yes, I would have a problem with that.  
You aren't just airing your dirty laundry, you are bashing a woman who isn't here to defend herself.  From the sound of it, she's got two kids under 10.  If she's found a supportive spouse I think you should be grateful.

by NineInchNachos on 9/29/2011 @ 8:12am
hey dads,  you have to pay child support?  this one is for you... job...KEEP TACOMA CREEPY!