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Need some feedback from my friends here. Should I get this


by JesseHillFan
on 4/29/2012 @ 7:05pm
Just wanted some opinions on this item.It's a rain fairing/windshield and top cover for my bike.It seems somewhat expensive but it may make riding in the rain much easier/pleasant without getting wet.I currently have a English style bike rain cape which is quite effective but even wearing a helmet with a Velcro strap on front baseball cap visor my face gets wet/cold.In addition my corrective glasses still can get wet making vision slightly difficult/nuisance when riding.It was a good emergency measure though once when I was caught out in the rain with some wind.Now this item is not a perfect solution though but I could see that perhaps it would make riding easier with both the cape on (for lower side protection) as well as with thisrain fairing/windshield and top cover (also adds some upper side rain protection too.It's kind of odd looking and on the expensive side.It comes from France.www.veltop.eu/us/veltop-classic-98.html 

Not perfect as I have read some reviews of rain on the windshield that is in need of a motorized windshield wiper.However this particular version allows the upper portions of the windshield to separate to give one a unobstructed slit (open to as much as 100 mm (about 4 inches) if needed/desired.My only issue with this accessory is it's cost, whether it's worthwhile.Also it's odd looking and bulky (however it and the bike would probably barely fit  through a standard home door).On the positive side the yellow cover version would make the rider much more view-able by motorists from the rear which would tend to make it safer.
Also I was thinking on getting some lightweight solar panels to put on the top cover so that it would charge up my electric bikes battery.I have to be careful so as to not add too much extra weight though so charging by solar will be slower than the standard charger.Two of these for 24 volts (40 watts total).About 2 feet by 2 feet in dimensions and 10 pounds extra added weight (hope that the fiberglass rods on the Veltop can hold this.www.amazon.com/Instapark%C2%AE-Black-Hig... 

Opinions about Veltop worth it or not? (I want to ride more often and not get discouraged by the rain).A motorcycle helmet with face visor could work instead however the enclosed motorcycle helmet won't allow head heat to dissipate from heavy exercise (not a problem/issue on a motorcycle/scooter). 
Both will add on an extra 15 pounds (ouch).I think the Veltop accessory adds only 5 pounds though.
How about Solar charging worth it or not for my bike?Later on I'll get that much much better Yuba Mundo cargo bike








by fredo on 4/29/2012 @ 7:57pm


What destination is so important that you would bother riding your bicycle with or without the rain cape? That sounds like a good excuse to stay home and skip the trip.

by NineInchNachos on 4/29/2012 @ 8:21pm
this video will show you how to make one
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ9AqRAwgK4 

by JesseHillFan on 4/29/2012 @ 8:24pm
Well I have need of transportation and it rains here a lot sometimes for months on end it seems.With the expected predicted fuel crisis in the upcoming decade or two to come with extremely few motor vehicles on roads (due to fuel unavailability or at extreme high cost) and consequent collapse of the national economy,few jobs during a economic depression that will make the 1930's economic depression look like the good times,cycling will be the best way to get around as long as the distances are not too far.Hey it beats walking.Thanks RR I saw something similar at Amazon for $44 however I'd like the windshield protection too.I do already have a umbrella handlebar attachment (good for only light winds).
Yes I remember the Prisoner series of the 1960's/Hey remember that strange moving robotic killing (smothering) giant inflated beach ball? That was my favorite part of the show.
I ride to my very elderly mothers house on a constant basis.She is about 5 miles away from where I reside.
Later on I plan to use cycling for more utilitarian things (shopping,cargo etc).

by L.S.Erhardt on 4/29/2012 @ 9:34pm
You can probably get by without a windshield wiper if you put on a coat (or three) or Rain-X.

I rather doubt the fiberglass and fabric can hold up to the extra weight. Even if they could, a sudden strong wind could cause you some heartbreak when the panels become dislodged.

I'm feeling that custom-designing yourself something would be a great choice if you have the inclination to do so.

Another option, could be to find an old kids trailer and convert it to a power station for your bike. Put panels on top and extra batteries in it. Of course, with this added range comes added weight. So trebling your power storage will probably only give you 1.5x range.
Eh, food for thought. Last year I made a trailer for my bike. I've hauled groceries, tools and chalk in it. It's only about 20 lbs, so I imagine something similar would with panels on the top would maybe add 35 lbs to your total...





by L.S.Erhardt on 4/29/2012 @ 9:59pm
JHF, do you know about this?

Endless Sphere




by JesseHillFan on 4/29/2012 @ 10:53pm
Yes I do know about that site ToT thanks.I appreciate your advise (about not mounting the panels on top of the Veltop ) and also the Rain-X too to make it hydrophobic and I was also  thinking about this motorized trailer to give me some extra boost later on in addition to what I already have with my meager 250 watt assist geared bub based motor (only use it for help up hills).www.ridekick.com/ 



Also the ridekick would give me some extra storage space and from the size of it it looks like the solar panels would better be mounted to that instead.This would give me some options and the motorized trailer could easily be disconnected when not needed.

by low bar on 4/29/2012 @ 11:33pm
first of all...how in the blue frack are you able to ride up the hills of tacoma...on a bicycle? are you that desperate to prove a point? but if you are worried about the fuel cost of all those 1.6 liter hyundai wind up toys calling to you from the port...buy a 250cc italian scooter and just wear a full faced helmet please. two birds....thank you. now the rest of us don't have to watch you strain needlessly up a god forsaken tacoma hill because you've figured out a way to use 62 brake horsepower to your advantage:) 

by JesseHillFan on 4/30/2012 @ 4:59am
How am I able to ride up the hills of Tacoma on a bicycle?It's called gearing.Variable torque.Trading higher speeds for higher torque and lower speeds.That's why many bicycles have different gears.A 500 watt chain driven cyclone electric kit can climb a steep 30 degree hill at a slow 4 to 5 miles per hour because it uses variable torque.Slow perhaps but without any pedaling.Changing gears it can travel around 28 mph motorized.I don't have one of those yet though just a low wattage electric hub based motor which helps but I still have to pedal.The point is that there will be no fuel even for scooters in the future and yes it will be that bad.There are several documentaries on this subject which are pretty similar..Here is onewww.youtube.com/watch?v=5sMF1n9EgzU 
Here are some other reasons.Not only do I not use fossil fuels to fuel my transportation,I get into better physical shape and lose weight (I am currently a heavy 240 pounds).This is called active transportation.Also cycling is a lot less expensive than owning a car and one puts out much less CO2 (greenhouse gas) which is responsible for harmful anthropogenic global climate changes.In addition travel at high speeds is inherently more dangerous to the rider or passenger or to others (pedestrians) than slower speeds.Using an electric motor as an assist with cycling is good synergy.An individual is using one of the most efficient forms of transportation (bicycle) with one of the most efficient motors (PWM controller based brush less electric) which is several times more efficient than an ICE motor.For me I just use the electric motor for help up hills and pedal the rest of the time.

by low bar on 4/30/2012 @ 4:47pm
well, you gotta do what you gotta do


by fredo on 4/30/2012 @ 5:16pm


JHF, you should call up the radio show called Coast to Coast. You'd be a perfect guest for them.

by NineInchNachos on 4/30/2012 @ 5:20pm
Art Bell Lives!

by JesseHillFan on 5/17/2012 @ 7:08pm
Just got my Veltop in the mail a few days ago.It seemed kinda pricey though.Had to rearrange some accessories on my bike for it to work right.Here are several quick videos of it.I obtained the Classic + which has a split rain/windshield.When one rides with it in good weather the upper top windshield should be removed without the canopy on otherwise the windscreen flops a bit forward and back a bit if you hit a bump in the road.Well this is my experience.In the rain though the fiberglass rods mostly prevent the vibration of the upper part of the windscreen.I was actually worried that it wouldn't arrive as they had the wrong zip code (6 digits rather than 5) and my city was spelled wrong too.I had to use the French Paypal site to pay for it as well.A little difficult for me as I don't speak or write in the French Language.Understanding the French Postal Delivery site was even more difficult especially when contacting them about the wrong postal zip code using a translator (Microsoft) and some simple sentences.It did arrive in a week and a couple of days.I had to sign for the package as well.Anyway here is my ebike with the Veltop attachment in various stages.When I spoke in these videos I was pretty much exhausted having rode the bike 5 miles and also mowed my mothers lawn too.Anyway if you see this bike on the streets of Tacoma yes it's me and we can talk in person if you holler and I hear you.From now on though I'll only be using the full Veltop canopy when it rains.This hopefully will extend the time that I can ride to maybe 9 or 10 months out of the year.And yes it does look a little odd/funny looking.High winds combined with rain and snow conditions I won't be riding those 2 or 3 months out of the year.
Sorry for my laziness as it would be better to edit all these videos into just one.I just didn't want to take the extra steps.Part 1 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SyvT_W_Tj8 Part 2www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWIHnUmpKKs Part 3www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AKCN9pDzYM Part 4www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FT2zzEXKAM Part 5www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPZvKJZEWME Part 6www.youtube.com/watch?v=U42N_bHJyiA