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by izenmania
on 2/27/2008 @ 9:56am
In the wake of last night's meeting, and the desire to get moving on it... how do we start? We start small.

One of the easiest practical suggestions I heard was Patricia's call to start using certain parks downtown for lunch. Specifically, she was talking about the green space at 9th and Commerce, at the end of the parking garage and bus terminal, which is in danger of getting fenced off to fight the drugs and crime in the area. The point was made, many times over, that the best way to keep an area from getting used for unsavory purposes is to use it for savory ones. And what's more savory than lunch, eh?

I know the forecast this Friday is for rain, but as spring approaches there will be more and more decent weather. Who's up for a weekly lunch meet? We can keep the dialog going and start retaking our public space at the same time.


by NineInchNachos on 2/27/2008 @ 10:00am
count me in!

by KevinFreitas on 2/27/2008 @ 10:04am
I'm there too. If it's raining maybe folks can buddy up under big umbrellas? I vote we move it around every week or month, too. That way numerous spots will get some love/attention.

by morgan on 2/27/2008 @ 10:04am
Sounds good!

by cassioposa on 2/27/2008 @ 11:04am
I'm in!

by NineInchNachos on 2/27/2008 @ 11:18am
is this a form of gentrification?

by intacoma on 2/27/2008 @ 11:26am
we don't need to fence that park off we need some undercovers, the last few years I would eat lunch at pikeplace and it was really fun to watch the crackheads get busted and tackled by undercover officers. I enjoy having lunch outside only when its warm though, the crime can have my parks till they become a place I actually care to be.

In the summer prostitution and crackheads are there for my entertainment I sit on my deck drinking a margarita or a cold beer while I report johns, of course this is in between flipping a steak or a burger on the grill.

by intacoma on 2/27/2008 @ 11:32am
This could be what the gathering could be
youtube.com/watch?v=obgym_6X_2E

without the cuddling though

by Erik on 2/27/2008 @ 12:07pm
I sure like the idea of a lunchtime meet up.

Specifically, she was talking about the green space at 9th and Commerce, at the end of the parking garage and bus terminal, which is in danger of getting fenced off to fight the drugs and crime in the area.

However, Frost Park is a failure because it in the middle of a dead zone with a huge blank cement wall against it.

Another failed attempt to have an "open space" with no idea of why or how it would work.

The North Park Plaza Parking garage needs to be knocked down as soon as possible with retail spilling out into any green space that is here.



www.tacomasun.com/2007/11/02/time-to-say...

If the city does not intend to replace the parking garage soon, they should just put a building on the spot with retail perhaps internal stairs or escalator in the store that one can walk up the hill. At least that would use the space.

Given the current design of the area, I am not sure that the "open space" there should be retained.

by izenmania on 2/27/2008 @ 12:25pm
is this a form of gentrification?

*paintbombs RR*

by KevinFreitas on 2/27/2008 @ 12:39pm
Despite the quality or locale of the park we should make do with what we have for now. Though it may not be the best park it certainly shouldn't be a spot for drugs and gangs. Besides, this is pretty much a pocket urban park so it's in a setting that demands some action to make it work. Let's make what we want of the park and use it!

by Erik on 2/27/2008 @ 12:44pm
Despite the quality or locale of the park we should make do with what we have for now

Ok. Your right. But in our effort to "Go Local" do we have to limit our food choices what is available at D Street Market?

by izenmania on 2/27/2008 @ 12:47pm
Yes.

Wait, no, that's a lie.

by KevinFreitas on 2/27/2008 @ 12:47pm
Brown bag it. Bring it from home or from anywhere downtown. Anyone that joins in from my office will have to figure something out since we'll be Linking it there.

by NineInchNachos on 2/27/2008 @ 12:56pm
BYOB: bown bag it!

you guys are welcome to use the Artifex Link Stop.

by izenmania on 2/27/2008 @ 2:44pm
Crap, was I supposed to be getting permission? I've been using your link stop 2-4 times a day... Nobody ever asked for my pass. I'm glad it's been formalized now, though.

by ensie on 2/27/2008 @ 2:54pm
IN!

by KevinFreitas on 2/27/2008 @ 5:24pm
It'd be really cool to see if any local eateries would "sponsor" by offering up a urban brown bag lunch out special. One week it could be one restaurant, a different one the next, and so on. Could be good exposure, encourages folks to try different places, and a great partnership to help lend more life to downtown.

by jenyum on 2/27/2008 @ 7:08pm
What time?

by izenmania on 2/27/2008 @ 7:28pm
Well, my office usually does a noon lunch, but it's also pretty flexible, so if someone needs it shifted, we can certainly manage something.

by jcbetty on 2/27/2008 @ 7:34pm
jen-- you there, with kids? I'm there, with kid (esp as summer heats up ;) )

by jenyum on 2/27/2008 @ 8:31pm
Fridays means no school for A., so I think I will be there with kid. Kids in the summer, possibly. Maybe I'll let her have her heart's desire and buy her a subway kids meal.

by jenyum on 2/28/2008 @ 7:29am
In light of the Tollefson Plaza thread, are we still talking about Frost Park?

by izenmania on 2/28/2008 @ 7:42am
I still am. Looked like Morgan was talking about a dinner thing in TP... I don't really know, though.

by KevinFreitas on 2/28/2008 @ 8:51am
I'm sure there could be overlap with space but Frost Park still needs some lovin'. Anybody in for tomorrow or will the forecast keep you away? I've got an umbrella.

by izenmania on 2/28/2008 @ 9:12am
I am comfortable with being rained on.

The TP things sounds like it would be better suited to an evening or a weekend, since it sounds less like "some people hanging out at lunch" and more like "an event".

by izenmania on 2/28/2008 @ 6:21pm
Well hot damn, man, if lunchtime tomorrow is anything like lunchtime today then it'll be a great day for a park lunch.

by KevinFreitas on 2/29/2008 @ 7:05am
Crud. I have a 12:30 meeting to be at today. Remind me to keep my lunch hour clear for it is a sacred time of break and food. Certainly don't need me there to kick this off but perhaps folks should chime in "yay" or "nay" so it's known whether or not to show.

Nay for me, unfortunately. See you next week!

by izenmania on 2/29/2008 @ 10:45am
yea.

by Daymaker on 2/29/2008 @ 11:20am
It sounds like not too many takers for today, I have clients, but I am IN for next Friday at 12:00. Is this official? The DMG wants to start hosting/sponsoring, so maybe we can get some restaurants interested. For now just bring the bag. This is awsome! Thanks for taking my suggestion and running with it. I look forward to meeting all kinds of new Tacomans.
patricia lecy davis

by KevinFreitas on 2/29/2008 @ 11:22am
Next week for sure. It's on my calendar, rain or shine.

by cassioposa on 2/29/2008 @ 12:38pm
March 7th @ noon? It's on my calendar. Looking forward to it!

by izenmania on 2/29/2008 @ 12:47pm
Too bad y'all missed out. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the prettiest Friday lunch hour of the coming month. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised the other way, either. Silly unreliable weather.

So today was an Izenman-centric meet-up, as I sat in the park with my dad and discussed how best for him to set up his own blog (coming soon to a Tacoma-based blog aggregator near you).

by Erik on 2/29/2008 @ 12:54pm
So today was an Izenman-centric meet-up, as I sat in the park with my dad and discussed how best for him to set up his own blog (coming soon to a Tacoma-based blog aggregator near you).

You are truly an urban pioneer!

by izenmania on 2/29/2008 @ 1:05pm
I managed a brown bag AND supporting local restaurants... stopped at Cascade Bagel (and ran into Voronoff the Living Statue haunting UWT) on the way.

Mmm... chowdah...

by jenyum on 2/29/2008 @ 1:05pm
We'll be there next week, for sure.

by Suzy Stump on 2/29/2008 @ 2:53pm
Do we take it back from izenmania now?

by izenmania on 2/29/2008 @ 3:11pm
Well, admittedly I didn't bring a flag. So it's not really mine.

by Dmitri on 2/29/2008 @ 4:45pm
If I had kept up with this morning's posts, I would have seen all the bail-outs. Luckily, the young Mr. Izenman showed up anyway, so I had company. You know how parents can be about their kids: can't get away from them when they're little; never see them enough once they wise up.

An urban pioneer, indeed. I take all the credit, deserved or not.

by NineInchNachos on 2/29/2008 @ 7:28pm
man you guys... this is why the drug dealers and poor people win all the time. poor people don't have no forgotten commitments or meetings!

Me? I bought a cheese burger at commercial teriyaki like a REAL tax paying american. Why? because I believe in supporting local economy. And yes. I ate the hell out of that cheeseburger.

by Daymaker on 2/29/2008 @ 7:39pm
You're right, today was beautiful, and my 12:00 never showed up GRRR! Well it's on my calendar for next week. Look forward to it "Rain or Shine"!

by Erik on 2/29/2008 @ 8:08pm
Cutting edge journalism at the Volcano.

They found a story in the News Tribune about Feed Tacoma which they "feed" their content into. But apparently are not readiing it:

Of the event today:

Maybe I’ve got a skewed perception of lunch hour, or maybe the park had already been taken back and I hadn’t realized it, but after sitting and smoking cigarettes for an hour at Frost Memorial Park, waiting for the onslaught of Local Life Tacoma’s conquest, or even a “ne’er-do-well,”

I came back to the office a little disappointed. Maybe I left too early? Maybe everyone showed up right after I left?


weeklyvolcano.typepad.com/spew/2008/02/t...

Perhaps a rule of using Feed Tacoma is one has to read Feed Tacoma occassionally.

They also missed izenmania who was there with his dad.

But during my time at the park I saw only one woman who looked like she was there to take back the park, carrying a tray of pink sprinkled cookies and anxiously waiting to be joined by the masses.

Hmmm.

Kevin basically called the event off at 7:05 a.m. and everyone re-scheduled. The Volcano published their piece exclaiming suprise that "no one was there" at 1:58 p.m. nearly 7 hours later.

by NineInchNachos on 2/29/2008 @ 8:53pm
cold. cold my friend.

I look forward to the day when we can look past our differences and recognize each other as fellow travellers on that road called humanity.

why the flip-jingus must i act as the voice of reason on this one?

by NineInchNachos on 2/29/2008 @ 8:57pm
the real victim here is the pink cookie lady.

by Erik on 2/29/2008 @ 9:09pm
I look forward to the day when we can look past our differences and recognize each other as fellow travellers on that road called humanity.

To look on the bright side, at least they covered the event. I suppose there''s some positive angle to it.

Everyone makes mistakes.

The crux here is that the Volcano basically announced the Feed Tacoma park event was a failure without checking with Feed Tacoma's owner Kevin or looking at Feed Tacoma online to check to see what was happening.

That's alright Matt, hang in there. You took your knocks and now its over. You should have seen RR's initiation of Grit City. They still haven't recovered.

We are all going to have to pick up our "game" if we are going to arise to the "Russell challenge."

If you will pledge to check more facts before reporting, RR may commit to more cartooning, Kevin to adding features to Feed Tacoma at a faster rate. I will do my part by increasing the number of people I get divorced in 2008. Working together we will help keep the Russell company in Tacoma and save Tacoma:



For better or worse, we are all in this together.

by izenmania on 2/29/2008 @ 10:06pm
the real victim here is the pink cookie lady.

It's true! She did seem pretty sad... she was looking for some sort of Brown Bag Business meet-up or something... I'm not sure what. Whatever it was, it was supposed to be at "9th and Commerce". We did see two women walking up the hill with brown lunch bags, and cookie lady got up and followed after them, but then I saw her walk back down the hill, cookies still in hand.

by JeepersJulie on 3/1/2008 @ 7:29am
I'm pretty sure someone from Corina Bakery will bring some cupcakes next week... :)

by NineInchNachos on 3/1/2008 @ 8:45am
It's true! She did seem pretty sad... she was looking for some sort of Brown Bag Business meet-up or something... I'm not sure what. Whatever it was, it was supposed to be at "9th and Commerce". We did see two women walking up the hill with brown lunch bags, and cookie lady got up and followed after them, but then I saw her walk back down the hill, cookies still in hand.

saddest thing i've read today. ugh. We'll be lucky to get the pink cookie lady back next time.

by jcbetty on 3/1/2008 @ 9:06am
wtf is a flip jingus, other than sheer brilliance? (you just made me shed a tear, however, with pink cookie lady mention)

by izenmania on 3/1/2008 @ 10:43am
I almost said to her "hey, we're having our own meeting of downtown businessy types, and my bag is brown... join us! Especially since I'm the only one here. I will be your friend."

But then she wandered off...

by ensie on 3/1/2008 @ 12:24pm
I'll be at a meeting next Friday and will be unable to attend. :( But will be there in spirit. Haunting you all.

by KevinFreitas on 3/1/2008 @ 12:57pm
Turns out the pink cookie lady was Gretchen from Herban Cafe!

weeklyvolcano.typepad.com/spew/2008/02/t...

Sorry you missed us this time around. We'll definitely be out there next week.

by herban on 3/1/2008 @ 12:58pm
Well, I was the pink cookie lady. I am sorry you didn't get a cookie. Did I ask you about it? I saw a gentleman on the step who said he knew nothing about the get together. I just wanted to offer desserts and spread the vibe about our new cafe, the Herban Cafe, 2602 6th Ave. 11-close Mon-sat. and Sunday Brunch 10 - 3. Happy hour, 1/2 price wines & apps. (Since I couldn't spread the word there, I'll do it here) Please come in soon and give me a call if you ever want a cookie!
253.572.0170

by izenmania on 3/1/2008 @ 1:10pm
Yes, I was the bearded guy that you spoke to, who misunderstood you and thought you were talking about something else (mostly because I didn't think anyone else was showing up). In my head I went "Business meeting? We're not a business meeting... she must be talking about something else."

It's the ultimate flaw of any group of people trying to organize on the internet... everyone shows up and nobody knows what anybody looks like.

by Daymaker on 3/1/2008 @ 8:03pm
Well there is no such thing as "failure". We will all be talking it up this week, and hopefully we all get to meet some new friends next week. 12:00, see y'all Friday.

by herban on 3/5/2008 @ 11:15am
Give us a call and we will bring cookies.
253.572.0170

by Daymaker on 3/5/2008 @ 9:42pm
I LOVE Cookies!

by thriceallamerican on 3/6/2008 @ 10:38am
So herban, are you going to get yourself a copy of your appearance in the latest Tacomic? Would make a great addition to the restaurant's decor, I think!

by KevinFreitas on 3/6/2008 @ 10:42am
Tomorrow should be fun. Already heard about a couple folks that are going to get lunch from Galanga to share with one another. Think I may hit up Pita Pit. Looking forward to seeing everyone tomorrow at noon!

by izenmania on 3/6/2008 @ 10:45am
My bagel and chowder from Cascade worked out so well last week that I think I shall do it again.

by Erik on 3/7/2008 @ 12:19am
KevinFreitas:Next week for sure. It's on my calendar, rain or shine.

Please confirm. There is alot of people watching this time and who could show up.

by izenmania on 3/7/2008 @ 12:34am
I will once again be there. You can count on me as a reliable attendee, if not a reliable recognizer of other attendees. I shall simply rely upon my own distinctive appearance (I'll be the one with all the hair) to draw other like-minded folk to me.

I hope to see the Driscoll there. (and no, I'm actually not joking)

by Erik on 3/7/2008 @ 12:40am
Ok Folks, the arrow is released.

Let's not fail the pink cookie lady now:

i.feedtacoma.com/Erik/downtown-activists...

I hope to see the Driscoll there.

He can report on the event.

by KevinFreitas on 3/7/2008 @ 6:55am
My wife and I will be there. I with my Pita Pit and she with some Galanga. Perhaps I'll bring a deck of cards as well.

by intacoma on 3/7/2008 @ 7:15am
rumor has it Driscoll will have a kissing booth setup

by Mandiferous on 3/7/2008 @ 8:30am
I had the most brilliant plan to bring a tarp and lay it out so we could all have a Northwest Weather Picnic. Alas, I forgot the tarp in my car which is now at the mechanic's on South Hill.

Meh. What's a little soggy butt among friends, right?

(Wait. That didn't sound right. You know what I mean.)

by Daymaker on 3/8/2008 @ 11:26am
Lunch was nice, some of the usual suspects, and some new faces. I'm a little disturbed about all the negativity toward "Taking it back" from the"Neredowells" as some one (unknown to me) said. This is not about kicking people out, or making a judgment about social class, and/or determining Who is an undesirable. It is more about taking the time and making a commitment to activate a space positively. When there is congregation and activity, there tends to be less crime. We just don't want a knee jerk reactionary solution to perceived crime, to end up being "fence the park off". That would be ridiculous! Going Local is about interaction and today's lunch was all about interaction. There were many intriguing conversations and some connections made. Let's keep it up. see you next Friday. Maybe this movement can inspire something at Tollefson Plaza. God knows that space needs to be activated!

by tacomachickadee on 3/8/2008 @ 2:18pm
Well said Daymaker! It was a lovely Tacomaness moment. Looking forward to next week.

by herban on 3/9/2008 @ 1:24pm
I am so sad I missed all of you. Is it on this coming up Friday?
Pink Cookies Rock