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City Council poised to make another Billboard MISTAKE this week! Click for details

by fredo
on 8/15/2012 @ 7:46am
  "A proposed agreement that Tacoma officials say they expect to sign Wednesday with Clear Channel Outdoor would require the company to tear down 17 of its billboards – possibly as soon as in three months – and give up its permits to build more.In return, the city would agree to at least consider letting the advertising giant keep some of the rest of roughly 190 billboards deemed “nonconforming” under a year-old code passed by the City Council."Read more here:

That's right, Clear Channel will remove a small handfall of non conforming billboards in exchange for making the rest of the non-conformings into conformings. That means we may NEVER get the other 190 non conforming billboards removed.

And Clear Channel is using the tool that local activisists like least. They are rushing this through without giving the community an opportunity to weigh in.


by Jesse on 8/15/2012 @ 8:02am
Since the city already actually TOLD Clear Channel (how stupid was that?) that Tacoma won’t litigate for a few years anyways, I think this is a good solution in the short term.

I’d want billboards taken out that are obstructing possible construction projects/sites, downright obnoxious in it’s setting/space (6th and Sprague anyone?), or are super close and causing light pollution inside people’s homes.

After the two year agreement “stay of litigation”, I would come back to the table and either do a deal like this again or threaten whopping huge litigation against Clear Channel…

Perhaps cutting a deal so CC can trade 10 traditional billboards for hand painted mural type “billboards” directly painted on buildings (think Alt Heidelberg downtown at Pacific and 17th) in the pre-1950’s style. I bet people would actually WANT those ads, they’d certainly get more attention, and it would make the city AND Clear Channel into practical art hero’s.

by KevinFreitas on 8/15/2012 @ 8:32am
Thanks for the post @fredo! I have a meeting Friday to learn more details but am also encouraged by this progress. Besides, the 190 number still may be dramatically whittled down:

"...the city would agree to at least consider letting the advertising giant keep some of the rest of roughly 190 billboards deemed 'nonconforming'..."

"Some" doesn't mean all. I'm confident that, considering the issues Clear Channel has maintaining their current boards and structures, the 190 number will be cut significantly back. If the City keeps enforcing code violations and CC is posting mostly non-profit signs their profit is pretty much garbage here. If we remove the money then CC can slink away.

by cisserosmiley on 8/15/2012 @ 8:46am
This looks like classic posturing retreat. WE lose, the city doesn't lose, CC doesn't lose, but WE lose because a bright light should be shown on this issue and it is dimmed by everyone's claim of "winning"

by NineInchNachos on 8/15/2012 @ 8:56am
the fight isn't over till we win.

by Jesse on 8/15/2012 @ 3:42pm
Update Bump:

by KevinFreitas on 8/15/2012 @ 4:45pm
Thanks @Jesse. Looks like the only huge one (that I'm familiar with) being removed is the one looming over 6th & Union. Lots of others in the tide flats or over on Marine View Drive that really don't have a whole heck of a lot to do with urban livability. Some on Tacoma Ave which is nice as well. Will await the TNT's map and the Friday update coming my way.

by NineInchNachos on 8/15/2012 @ 5:26pm
if they take down the billboard over it's greek to me this whole thing would have been worth it. 

by KevinFreitas on 8/15/2012 @ 5:53pm
Building my own Google Map. Currently in-progress:

by NineInchNachos on 8/15/2012 @ 6:05pm
too bad this piece of shit isn't going away

by NineInchNachos on 8/15/2012 @ 6:07pm

by KevinFreitas on 8/15/2012 @ 6:41pm
OK, so the map is done and there's a good amount (in green) getting repaired as are being removed (in red). No big ones right in the middle of neighborhoods are coming down and, frankly, most are completely worthless to Clear Channel by virtue of their location.

In this round it appears this is a baby step but that, other than demolition costs, Clear Channel isn't losing much. It'll be interesting to see what next steps might be. Stay tuned...

by fredo on 8/16/2012 @ 6:47am
This new agreement is eerily similar to one that the council signed with Clear channel just two years ago.

1. Terms seem to be good for Tacoma. Check

2. Rushed to the council by the City Manager. Check

3. Assurances that this is the best way to go. Check

4. Excited city council support. Check

5. Little opportunity for public comment. Check.

6. Warned that expensive litigation will result if not signed. Check

7. Once and for ever will insure that Clear channel has a monopoly over all outdoor advertising in Tacoma. Check.

by fredo on 8/16/2012 @ 6:56am
Somebody should contact those documentary film producers and have them get back here quick so they can document how the billboard advocates were able to finally get the upper hand on the little city of Tacoma WA. The new "agreement" would be the perfect sad ending or epilogue to their film.

I'll be interested to hear Anders Ibsens comments before the vote. He was a recently elected council member who ran strongly on the billboard enforcement platform. 

by KevinFreitas on 8/16/2012 @ 7:19am
I'll learn more tomorrow and update everyone then...