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Is racism funny when you are the Mayor?


by fredo
on 12/2/2011 @ 9:14am
Mayor Strickland is in full damage control mode this morning ever since she made an insensitive, even vitriolic remark, unaware that a newspaper reporter was listening.    

"Republicans (are) unable to court black voters because “you just can’t get around that they’re racist," 

This was reported in the PLU Morning Mast by Kevin Knodell.


by The Jinxmedic on 12/2/2011 @ 10:37am
Stay classy, Mayor Strickland.
 

by NineInchNachos on 12/2/2011 @ 10:48am
9 9 9 !

by KevinFreitas on 12/2/2011 @ 11:04am
Here's a link to the article from the PLU student newspaper: mooringmast.blogspot.com/2011/12/politic...


by Jesse on 12/2/2011 @ 11:41am
Finally an honest politician.

by Maria on 12/2/2011 @ 1:06pm
She needs to apologize. That statement is incorrect, ignorant and promoting bias. You'd think in 2011, people would know better than to label or dismiss an entire group of people with an inflammatory and vague insult. E.g.,

"Koreans are...."
"Christians are..."
"Hispanics are..."
"Tacoma cartoonists are..."

Politicians make mistakes, and, it seems they especially make mistakes (e.g., speak what's really in their minds) when they think the mic is off or that reporters are not around.

However, as a person of mixed ethnic background like myself, I would expect Mayor Strickland to be extra sensitive to derogatory stereotypes and generalizations.

Her actions after the event are weird also. It doesn't sound like she put pressure on the student reporter, but from the link Kevin referred to, she sounds like she's trying to influence him in toning down anything negative by blaming her comments on the fact she didn't know a reporter was present and she was just trying to fire up the Young Dems for 2012. How this makes what she says any better...I don't know.

Kevin Knodell's own words pretty much sum up how I feel about this:


"I was bothered because this sort of partisan rhetoric, which identifies those who disagree politically as malicious does little to benefit anybody. It turns legitimate debates about policy and what’s best for the community into a bitter and divisive battle between good and evil. It takes respect out of the picture and makes honest dialogue and reflection on one’s own beliefs that much more difficult."


The fact that her comments are dismaying doesn't mean that Republicans and the Republican Party are free from racism. Republicans themselves recognize that they struggle to win over minorities. As a conservative voter and a minority, I'm frustrated with conservatives, too, at times, and have heard some very CRAZY assumptions come from Republicans (and Dems too, actually). But the mayor's comments are unhelpful.

Being in a college setting, it would have been so much more beneficial if she had discussed race and politics over history, and touted the civil rights promoting agenda of the Democrats, versus a lazy slur. It would have taken 15 minutes to look up some facts and figures differentiating the two parties, and even how lawmakers from either party voted on recent civil rights protections, immigration, etc. Research, facts, history, quotes versus Sparknotes off-the-cuff remarks. :)

by fredo on 12/2/2011 @ 1:19pm
Apparently when reporters are known to be around she can talk a good game of equality. But when the reporters leave the room she can reveal the real Mayor Strickland, a sadly conflicted racist.

I've come up with a slogan for her to use at next month's State of the City address:

 
Fear and Loathing in Tacoma. 

by The Jinxmedic on 12/2/2011 @ 1:25pm
Racists!

by NineInchNachos on 12/2/2011 @ 1:34pm
Tacoma cartoonists are...  filled with love for all children of the goddess (of commerce)

by Jesse on 12/2/2011 @ 1:59pm
Hey now!  Birthers aren't racist!!  They just can't figure out how a black man can be a "real American".

Kidding aside, politics are all about generalizations, two word sound bites, and defining the competition. For those that know more about Kim Kardashian than their local representative, these simple generalizations work! How else can George W. Bush be explained?

Is it right to do? No. But when you have major TV stations playing a half hour of world news each night and a whole hour covering Kim Kardashian and Hollywood, this is what you get.

by NineInchNachos on 12/2/2011 @ 2:02pm
yeah.  How do we know Mayor Strickland was even born in America?  And not born on some Korean Air Base?

by The Jinxmedic on 12/2/2011 @ 2:10pm
You're all racists!

by NineInchNachos on 12/2/2011 @ 2:11pm
when is Mayor Strickland going to release her long form starbucks birth day certificate ?


by The Jinxmedic on 12/2/2011 @ 2:34pm
Only a racist would ask for that. Racist!

by seejane on 12/2/2011 @ 4:40pm
an Indian law judge once said "an Indian voting Republican is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders"


by fredo on 12/2/2011 @ 4:56pm
Seejane that's a good joke.
Seejane, maybe you could be Marilyn's sidekick. She'll be in charge of offending the Republicans' and you can be in charge of offending the Indians. Sort of a politically incorrect tagteam.

by seejane on 12/2/2011 @ 11:30pm
Fredo - I agree with my friend the judge. My cousin Ann, a Republican and an Indian, would be offended for sure.

by tacoma1 on 12/3/2011 @ 8:03am
I read the article, and the reporter seems like he was a little disingenuous here: " I told her that I was working that night simply as a photographer and that was it"

And the quote from the Mayor isn't given in full context so as a reader that wasn't at the event, I can't be sure of the intent.

The reporter also mentioned that he was asked if he got his press pass photo off a milk carton (not by Stricklund). Sounds like there was an axe to grind here to me.

by fredo on 12/3/2011 @ 8:08am


  The Republican Party principle is that the individual has the power to succeed through hard work.I think your friend the judge was saying that Indians were not capable of hard work.I would understand if people found that "joke" offensive. 

by fredo on 12/3/2011 @ 8:13am
THe mayor has had several days now to provide "context". Pretty sure a racial joke placed in context is still going to make the Mayor look like a racist.

I'm interested even more in her attempt to gag the reporter by calling him on his private line to find out what he was going to say. That's pretty nervy.

We're still waiting for her to say something publically. 

In fact we're still waiting for her to explain her new ethics violation where she handed out $50K tax money to former city director in violation of the law.

by tacoma1 on 12/3/2011 @ 8:14am
"Republican Party Principle" is an oxymoron.


BTW, the reporter apparently lied to the Mayor by his on admission when he told her he was working "simply as a photographer". Seems like a lack of journalistic ethics to me.

by fredo on 12/3/2011 @ 8:49am
  "the reporter apparently lied to the Mayor by his on admission when he told her he was working "simply as a photographer".

So, in your mind Tacoma1, if a photographer is attending a news event and witnesses a breaking story he should keep it to himself because reporting it would be a breech of journalistic ethics. Is that your position?

by tacoma1 on 12/3/2011 @ 9:09am
He should have done a follow up interview as a reporter. Not deny that he is a reporter when asked.

More proof that "Republican Party Principle" is an oxymoron.

by fredo on 12/3/2011 @ 9:24am
  Kudos to the cub reporter who was the only person at the event that realized he was witnessing a breaking story.

And whats the story?

The mayor of  Tacoma decided to refer to a large segment of Tacoma's population as "racists."

What difference would a "follow up" interview make? So she could deny she made the remark or so that she could give him some payola to keep his mouth shut?

by tacoma1 on 12/3/2011 @ 9:53am
Since the reporter lied to the mayor. How do we know he isn't lying to us?

by fredo on 12/3/2011 @ 10:09am
  "How do we know he isn't lying to us?"

1. Nobody from the event has come forward to deny it.

2. Mayor Strickland herself hasn't denied it.

If it didn't happen and the mayor doesn't defend herself then she is even more clueless than she already appears to be.

Sort of sad how her career in politics has been allowed to become nothing more than a regrettable mistake.

by tacoma1 on 12/3/2011 @ 10:23am
Your zeal in calling the Mayor a racist by believing a reporter who admittantly lied is disturbing.


by fredo on 12/3/2011 @ 10:36am


The reporter didn't lie. It was job to take pictures and write captions for the pictures. This is what he did.What did he lie about?

by tacoma1 on 12/3/2011 @ 10:49am
You must have a reading comprehension problem.

"I told her that I was working that night simply as a photographer and that was it."

by fredo on 12/3/2011 @ 10:59am


Regardless of what he told the mayor, he subsequently decided to write an article about the event and the Mayor's clumbsy attempt to try to block it. He has the same right to freedom of speech that you or I have.

by fredo on 12/3/2011 @ 11:03am
There's no use in further denying what the mayor said as reported by the cub reporter.

On Thursday the Mayor admitted it to the News Tribune.

“I probably didn’t choose my words as carefully as I should,” she conceded Thursday

Read more: www.thenewstribune.com/2011/12/02/192925...

by fredo on 12/3/2011 @ 11:06am


  Shooting the messenger" is a metaphoric phrase used to describe the act of lashing out at the (blameless) bearer of bad news.

by fredo on 12/3/2011 @ 11:06am


  Shooting the messenger" is a metaphoric phrase used to describe the act of lashing out at the (blameless) bearer of bad news.

by ixia on 12/3/2011 @ 11:10am
Bring out the dead kangaroo!!

by fredo on 12/3/2011 @ 12:42pm
Thorax has the kangaroo

by fredo on 12/4/2011 @ 8:58am
Maybe Marilyn is preparing for her next career after she leaves city hall, which probably will be happening pretty soon.

She's sort of like the comedian Wanda Sykes. She's a sassy mixed race gal who likes to throw out a bunch of edgy politically incorrect statements. Marilyn needs to remember that this sort of material goes over better when the audience is mostly inebriated.

I can see her on stage now, here comes her favorite punchline: 

"....blah, blah, blah....RACISTS...." The crowd roars with approval.

If you would like to purchase a signed copy of this written word art please contact me at fredo_tacoma@yahoo.com

by tacoma1 on 12/4/2011 @ 9:11am
I doubt that very many racists oops I meant to say republicans voted for her in the first place. This just isnt as big of a deal as u think it is.

by Mofo from the Hood on 12/4/2011 @ 9:26am
"Republicans (are) unable to court black voters because “you just can’t get around that they’re racist,"

"Hyuk, AND homophobes," said comic twin, Dem O'Crass.

by fredo on 12/4/2011 @ 9:27am


It's not a big deal, but that doesn't prevent you from weighing in every day with your opinion. :)Hey, maybe you could be Marilyn's warm up act tacoma1! Sounds like you have a little racism coursing through your veins too.

by tacoma1 on 12/4/2011 @ 9:36am
Republicans aren't a race fredo, they are just predominantly of one race.

by fredo on 12/4/2011 @ 9:50am


The Republican party seeks individuals of all races. Minorities have as much to gain from a government which allows them to achieve the American dream as caucasians. There will always be some divisive people like our mayor who wish to display their ignorance and they are to be pitied. 

by fredo on 12/4/2011 @ 10:09am
 " I doubt that very many racists oops I meant to say republicans voted for her in the first place"

Partially correct tacoma1.

I also doubt that many republicans, or thoughtful intelligent people for that matter, voted for Strickland. But we pay taxes in the city and want a mayor we can be proud of even if we didn't vote for her.  I didn't think her remark was funny. I found it offensive.

by tacoma1 on 12/4/2011 @ 11:05am
Ironic, isn't it?

by fredo on 12/4/2011 @ 11:13am


Obviously you agree with the mayor that Republicans are racists. Do you have any evidence that the Republican party endorses racism or is this just some prejudice that you happen to embrace? 

by Jesse on 12/4/2011 @ 8:06pm
"Do you have any evidence that the Republican party endorses racism or is this just some prejudice that you happen to embrace?"  -- fredo
"Birthers".  Case closed.

by fredo on 12/4/2011 @ 8:10pm
link please

by tacoma1 on 12/4/2011 @ 8:12pm
Good point Jesse. The whole birther issue is obvious racism, and John Boehner the head of the Republican party refused to denounce them. Proof that the Republican party at the minimum, openly condones racism.

by fredo on 12/4/2011 @ 8:23pm
The birther movement was started in 2008 when the Hilary Clinton campaign tried to draw attention to Obama's possible foreign birth. So I guess we would have to conclude that Hilary clinton is a racist and probably a republican.
  

by tacoma1 on 12/4/2011 @ 9:21pm
I'm glad u recognize the Republican racism with the birther movement.

Hilllary Clinton's campaign didn't start the birther movement. She never condoned it like Republican Speaker of the House John Boehner did.

A fringe supporter of hers did bring up the birther issue. Not the Clinton campaign. Sometimes you have to read more than the tea party chain emails to know what's going on.

by Jesse on 12/4/2011 @ 9:54pm
Also, would anyone yell "you lie" during a presidential speech if Obama was white?  I bet not.  Obama lacks the level of respect he deserves as president because he's black.

by tacoma1 on 12/4/2011 @ 10:05pm
As recent as this April, 45% of republicans were birthers, and 22% were open to it. That's a lot of racism for one political party to have just by coincidence.

www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2011-04-2...

by The Jinxmedic on 12/5/2011 @ 8:30am
This is pathetic. If an outsider was to read this thread, the conclusion likely to be reached would be that you are all elitist racist haters.

Perhaps Republicans don't like Obama not because he is (half)black, but because he is a democrat? Did you ever think about that? I don't remember a whole lot of Republican love for Clinton or Carter...

Perhaps Republicans feel that Obama lacks respects as president because they see him as a clueless amateur, not because he is black? Is that a possibility?

Perhaps the birthers are wondering why the president who declared that he would have the most translucent presidency in history, doesn't?

The race card doesn't work any more. Grow up.
 

by tacoma1 on 12/5/2011 @ 8:58am
Or perhaps the birthers are just racists.

by The Jinxmedic on 12/5/2011 @ 9:20am
See? It's really easy to call people who don't agree with you racists. It's getting rather difficult to have an intelligent discussion around here.
 

by NineInchNachos on 12/5/2011 @ 9:27am
If it looks like a racist, talks like a racist, and behaves like a racist... it might be a racist... so probe.  get the facts... report your findings... let the community test those findings.  
All the gods children deserve a seat around the campfire.

by NineInchNachos on 12/5/2011 @ 10:04am
is there racism in America? www.onthemedia.org/2011/dec/02/how-racis...

by fredo on 12/5/2011 @ 12:23pm
When republicans complained about Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton it had nothing to do with their race, but when republicans complain about Barack Obama it's because he's black.

You know what?

That doesn't make any sense unless you are trying to engage in race bating like our Mayor.

Regarding the "birther" movement. I want every candidate for the Presidency to furnish a complete set of documents which demonstrate that they qualify for office they are seeking. I don't care if the candidate is black or white. That seems entirely reasonable.   

by fredo on 12/5/2011 @ 12:24pm


Four days... and still the Mayor hasn't apologized.

by tacoma1 on 12/5/2011 @ 12:33pm
During the last election, the birthers only asked 'bout the black guy's birth certificate, not the white guy who was born in Panama. You asked for proof of Republican racism and its been provided.

by fredo on 12/5/2011 @ 12:36pm


I already told you that the Democratic Party started the birther movement. That's from wikipedia.

by tacoma1 on 12/5/2011 @ 12:38pm
If its from Wikipedia it must be right.

by fredo on 12/5/2011 @ 12:50pm


  During the Democratic Party's 2008 presidential primaries, anonymous e-mails from supporters of Hillary Clinton surfaced that questioned Obama's citizenship in an attempt to revive Clinton's faltering primary election campaign.

by fredo on 12/5/2011 @ 12:50pm


  During the Democratic Party's 2008 presidential primaries, anonymous e-mails from supporters of Hillary Clinton surfaced that questioned Obama's citizenship in an attempt to revive Clinton's faltering primary election campaign.

by fredo on 12/5/2011 @ 12:54pm
Since you are one of the few people who thinks Mayor Strickland did right by calling all the republicans "racists" why don't you contact the good mayor tacoma1 and urge her to continue the race baiting unapologetically? Apparently you think this is a good thing. She would probably welcome your defense.

Maybe she could open every council meeting in the following manner:

"Welcome to tonight's city council meeting fellow democrats and in case any republicans are here tonight, welcome to you racists as well." 

by tacoma1 on 12/5/2011 @ 12:55pm
So if your point is that some fringe democrats are birthers like many republicans, I would agree.

The USA poll I posted early showed that 10% of dems are birthers too.

by fredo on 12/5/2011 @ 1:08pm
  Is there something wrong with requiring presidential candidates to provide incontrovertable evidence that they are qualified to occupy the office? 

That's a yes or no question.

by tacoma1 on 12/5/2011 @ 1:14pm
If applied only to the black guy, yes there is something wrong with that.

Once again, the white guy born in Panama wasnt asked for his birth certificate.

by fredo on 12/5/2011 @ 1:42pm
Well if we asked every presidential candidate, REGARDLESS of race, to produce satisfactory birth records would that be OK with you?


Since McCain lost the election it seems sort of stupid to keep raising his birth certificate as an issue.

by tacoma1 on 12/5/2011 @ 1:47pm
Why yes, I'd be happy with that.

by fredo on 12/5/2011 @ 1:51pm
We finally have agreed on something. Hallelueah!

by NineInchNachos on 12/5/2011 @ 2:05pm
wait are you guys agreeing that all presidential candidates should show berth certificates or that berth certificate issue is stupid?  
also, is it possible to unsubscribe email notifications on a per thread basis? 

by The Jinxmedic on 12/5/2011 @ 2:37pm
Only ships need berth certificates.