by Twisty
on 8/31/2008 @ 5:48pm | What I can't understand is why don't they do these "work days" during the summer? They have 3 months off to plan, but they insist on inconveniencing their employers - the parents - by sprinkling disruptions throughout the school year.
If there were a proper burst of organized outrage, we could put a stop to this nonsense. |
by chrism39
on 8/31/2008 @ 6:05pm | Well I don't know about that, my son had a teacher last year that was racist, lazy, disorganized, and mean. She had 10 or 11 parent complaints, 3 parents pulled there kids and I spoke to the principal about a billion times, yet she will be teaching again. |
by jenyum
on 8/31/2008 @ 7:03pm | There was an article about it in the Trib this weekend. (Trying to start a discussion about it on Tacomamama, if you'd like to stop by.)
Basically, having them during the Summer or after hours would require paying the teachers for more days/hours, which the schools cannot afford.
I suppose if there were a proper burst of organized outrage followed by speedy passage of a bond measure, we could put a stop to this nonsense. But we'd need voter support, and money. |
by jcbetty
on 8/31/2008 @ 8:08pm | did the trib say anything about the thirty minutes more class time , per day, and the across-the-board full day kindergarten happening? --certainly, those hours would factor in somehow to the statistics? --thing is, I think that teachers in this state-- and many others, in this era of "no child left behind" --are given short shrift. They have to attend sometimes pointless classes on the days their kids' parents are bickering about their kids being out of school, and yet, they're responsible for teaching more and more material, per the government ... all because the laws require all kinds of continuing education for teachers, many of whom already have masters. Ummm, yeah, and then they *do* have a strong union that does ensure a person in the system for 10-15 years gets due warning and her just reward. --not that that person isn't ready to be given the boot-- I know many potential new teachers who could teach the pants off many jaded, burnt out old ones-- and yet.... like Jen said, outrage, bond measure, tax money, etcetera....
It's a flawed system, fer sure, and yet, I think that as far as what it does, ......meh. It's better than what I'd be able to do, home schooling. |
by fredo
on 9/1/2008 @ 11:05am | Betty@ Good points about the extra 30 minutes and the enhanced Kindergarten. I do agree with Chris and Twisty about the disruptive nature of so much conferencing during the year. This might be a funding issue but I think its more of a Union position. Thanks for raising the topic, Chris. |
by jenyum
on 9/1/2008 @ 11:22am | *How* is it a union position?
Do you mean, because of the unions the district has to pay teachers for time they are at work, training and developing new curricula? I'm not sure that's a *union* position so much as a fundamental principal of wage and hour law.
If you are required to be present at your job you are paid for your time. If we cannot come up with a funding source for additional hours, that time will have to come out of hours teachers are already present. I do not see where the union has anything at all to do with this issue. |
by jcbetty
on 9/1/2008 @ 4:07pm | Union might have everything to do with the teacher in question not being fired after a some really dismal years, is my guess-- certainly, that's what I was talking about. --as to union having to do with "days off" --I'm seeing that in-service days mean teachers work, just not with kids. And the other holidays just kind of are what they are, so yeah, not so much a union issue. I think this post may be bringing up two separate issues... |
by Twisty
on 9/17/2008 @ 4:37pm | Fredo, it's not a funding problem or a union problem -- it's a *management* problem. School administrators keep piling on this crap with total disregard for the chaos that it causes. In their worldview, we should cater to their wims. They don't give a rat's ass about the taxpayers and parents that they *should* be treating as customers.
Again... if enough people would get pissed off and demand that it stop, it would stop. Unfortunately, the sheeple have been buffaloed into submission. |
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